If putting naked pictures of your ex on the web for other men to pleasure themselves to is “revenge,” what does that say about pornography in general?
stop hating on girls who wanna kiss people in museums or aquariums or art galleries stop hating on girls who want things that might be cliche stop hating on girls who want boys to treat them like they’re magic i will protect all girls with my life and just because they care about things that you don’t doesn’t give you the right to belittle them ok i will fight u
Apparently because Gadreel said that Sam wouldn’t die to save Dean specifically to rile up Dean that makes it true despite all evidence to the contrary and that makes Sam hateable.
But the bigger thing IMO is wtf should we want Sam to sacrifice himself for a man who is abusing him?
I usually don’t engage this kind of thing directly, but please, indulge me, I’m curious…
HOW is Dean TEXTUALLY Abusing Sam? Not your interpretation of the facts, whatever you have as head canon is your business and your business only, but, in TEXT.
Does Dean constantly and frequently punches or threatens Sam with violence if Sam doesn’t do what he says? No.
Does Dean forbid Sam to have friends outside a very short and Dean-approved list? No. The ONE time Dean disapproved Sam’s friendship with someone was Ruby. Since she was a demon hellbent into using Sam as a pawn to get Lucifer out… I think we can agree that there, Dean was right.
Does Dean constantly, relentlessly puts Sam’s effort down, mocks him for his achievements and never once says something good about Sam unless he wants something from him? No. There are many mocking instances, but Sam does the same. If we’re not allowed to call Sam abusive for never once telling his brother he is smart, no, the ‘princess’ comments are not abuse.
Does Dean in any way, form or shape controls what Sam does or doesn’t do, to the point that Sam can’t leave Dean’s side without permission? NO. We saw that just one episode ago.
You can interpret canon any way you want -hell, I’ve done it to paint Sam as the abuser - but you can’t say that is actual TEXT. Neither Sam nor Dean abuse the other, and that’s not what the writers are trying to say.
What Dean did was to disobey a DNR order, that’s it. Don’t try to paint it as something horribly wrong that completely undermines Sam’s personhood since the show itself has gone out of their way to ignore that point just as it ignores that Dean has no sense of self at all due to how he was raised. Those two are things that are interesting to talk about in meta, but we can’t claim they’re text because they aren’t. Textually, Dean will do anything for his brother because he loves him, and is not an abuser. Textually, at least until Season 7, Sam would’ve done the same. I have no idea where Sam stands right now in the heads of the writers -since they seem to think this is a healing situation- but if we are going completely by the co-dependant line? Sam is the one who gets the attention of Dean, so SAM cannot be the victim of abuse. Since he’s the one who sets the rules, the one who decides what happens.
Should Sam die for Dean? I don’t know. I don’t think so. And that’s a fair question. Should Sam die for ‘the man who abuses him’? Hell, first show me who that man is, in text, in the series without any interpretation, without using the word ‘subtextually’ or ‘we can assume’ or ‘we can infer’, and THEN, we’ll talk.
Since sweetsamofmine has already answered your post in relation to textual information on the abusive nature of the Dean/Sam relationship, I’ll address that in a separate post.
What gets me is this:
What Dean did was to disobey a DNR order, that’s it. Don’t try to paint it as something horribly wrong that completely undermines Sam’s personhood
Dean did not just disobey a DNR order, although that in itself would have been bad enough. He forced a supernatural being inside of Sam, knowing full-well that Sam would never consent to having anything inside of him again. Then he lied to him about it for weeks, gaslighting him about it until Sam thought he was losing his mind.
i’ve spent the entire morning (literally like 4 or 5 hours) replying to a post about sam/dean and abuse and i’ve scheduled one of the two for tonight and i’m like *BRACE FOR IMPACT INTO THE WANK FIELD*
WHY DO PEOPLE CALL IT FUCK, MARRY, KILL WHEN THEY COULD CALL IT BED, WED, BEHEAD
easy there henry
whos henry what thef uck?
*faint laughter from Britian*
Okay I’m gonna start by admitting I haven’t watched the episode yet. I still haven’t watched past thinman… but it’s irrelevant because I’m not going to talk about the episode. I want to talk about this line; just some
rage thoughts that come to mind when I saw a gifset of that scene.
I feel like ‘it’s a means to an end’ just about sums up Dean’s justifications for everything. I mean I will never be over how stupid he is for not even listening to Cain when he tries to explain the negative consequences of having the Mark. Even if you’re adamant to say yes, at least listen while he explains what’s going to happen Dean for fuck’s sake.
But I think a means to an end is Dean’s way of justifying pretty much anything. Anything is justifiable in Dean’s mind, as long as it’s just a means to something they really want/need. He is willing to kill monsters or even people who’s “evilness” is dubious at best (Amy Pond for example), because he’s ~saving people~ by doing so. It’s an unfortunate means to an end. He’s willing to work with Crowley, even though when Castiel did that, it was the one thing that Dean had the most trouble forgiving; even though when Sam did that, he has still never forgiven him for it. All for the sake of killing Abaddon.
But what I find highly ironic, and what bothers me the most about it, is that while Dean is willing to do literally anything at certain points in the show, no matter how awful, immoral or downright stupid, and justifies it as a means to an end, he is incapable of forgiving Sam for doing exactly the same thing.
Like… does he think that Sam worked with Ruby because of her winning personality? Does he think he drank demon blood because he woke up one day and was like hey! you know what my life is missing? demon blood, that’s what I need. Can’t believe I’ve been missing it all my life! …?!
Sam’s decisions, and his dubious acts as a means to an end have been far more measured than Dean’s. Ruby proved herself over and over again to be trustworthy, both to Sam and Dean, and it was a long time before he really trusted her. She even honoured Sam’s wishes to have a vacant host so that nobody was hurt by Ruby’s existence/interactions with Sam. Whereas Crowley is a demon they both know is completely untrustworthy. They know that he is a devious little shit who only does things that are good for him, and the minute something changes, he will double cross them. He’s killed people they loved just to stop them from being a nuisance to him, manipulated and blackmailed them. And yet working with him is completely justifiable because hey, Abaddon needs to die (even though, retrospectively, she’s killed fewer people that they love than Crowley and so far has done less detrimental damage than he has).
Sam’s drinking demon-blood was a pretty measured decision in comparison to what Sam was trying to prevent. He was trying to prevent the apocalypse. He was literally trying to save the entire damn world, and make sure Lucifer stayed in his cage. He figured - he already has demon-blood in him; he’s already tainted, he’s already got abilities. He just needs to tap into that, make himself stronger and he’ll be able to defeat Lillith. Dean has never forgiven him for working with Ruby and drinking demon blood, and yet he took on the Mark of Cain, purposely ignoring the warning Cain tried to give him about the negative effects of the mark, for the comparatively menial task of taking out Abaddon.
Hypocrisy is probably the one thing that I have the most trouble getting over, with anything. But the fact that it’s ignored, skirted over, or even supported by the writing and by the fandom pisses me off to no end. I like the Mark of Cain story. I like the effect it’s having on Dean and the parallel’s it’s drawing. I just don’t like the way it’s being handled because everyone’s rallying around him and supporting him for a really dubious decision, while everyone berated and despised Sam for doing the same thing…
Friendly reminder that if Dean didn’t make a bad decision, Sam would be dead right now, so how about you shove your Dean is a selfish bastard and Sam is a million times better than Dean will ever be up your arses and remember that Dean is the little boy that gave Sam the end of the cereal he wanted so badly when he didn’t have to and the man that sold his soul and oh, yeah, if Sam were dead right now he’d be trapped in a terrifying limbo and nowhere near a safe place in Heaven anyway.
Regardless of your opinion about the rightness of Dean’s decision to help Gadreel violate Sam’s mind, body and soul, Dean still made the decision to lie to Sam about what was happening to Sam for 20 weeks. He allowed Sam to believe that his own grip on reality was coming loose again despite knowing Sam’s experience with severe mental illness and he says he’d do it again, all of it, no matter what the cost.
But he gave Sam the cereal so that makes it okay.
Actually, now I’m imagining an au where Sam dies and is in limbo and leads his own, one man crusade to find a way to break into heaven and fix things from the inside (maybe using left-over power from the trials, preferably with the help of my favorite dead characters). And Dean would be working from the outside, with the goal being to not only break into heaven but eventually resurrect Sam. And the drama would come from them trying to work together while being separated, not from more lies and betrayal.
You know, that would be so much… better…
Because instead of Sam being forced to live, assuming he were resurrected, he would feel like he had accomplished something, like he had a reason for living. He could pursue a goal of his own instead of being along for the ride on Dean’s goal.
Super serious post about Steve and his extra capabilities—
- Steve Rogers is shown to be worthy of carrying Mjolnir, is one of few people capable of accessing Iron Man’s armory, and is one of two foreigners entrusted with the Black Panther’s technology. Steve is also one of the very few people that Wolverine truly trusts.
- Steve loves apple cake.
*two girls kiss*
straight people: i just think it’s so amazing that they would do that, you know. as friends
*two girls have sex*
straight people: female friendship is amazing
*two girls get married, buy a house, have some kids*
straight people: what better way to grow old than to do it with your best friend
Literally no one thinks this
- cara delevigne and michelle rodriguez being called ‘gal pals’ (they’re dating)
- ellie and riley’s kiss in the last of us: left behind labeled as ‘platonic’
- "I did a picture in my Basic Illustration class once of my new lesbian couple characters. They weren’t doing anything in the picture aside from looking exasperated at one another, but I CLEARLY stated to the teacher repeatedly that they were a couple (we were discussing how to show relationships between characters via props, expressions, etc.) However, without fail, every single time he mentioned the characters he called them “sisters”. It annoyed the fucking crap out of me." (x)
- "Ugh. Ugh. I can’t even count the number of times my girlfriend has been reduced to my best friend while fully knowing the situation, instead choosing to acknowledge it the way that their warped minds see fit. fuck." (x)
- "This is 100% true. “So, how’s your friend?” “Fiancée” “Yeah, friend, how’s your friend?” “…”" (x)
- “The way that this is worded is hilarious to me because my great aunt actually bought a horse, raised kids, and has lived with the same woman for 30 years, and the majority of my family still refers to them as “good friends”.” (x)
- "There’s this guy at the 7/11 that is down the street from us that ALWAYS asks where my “good friend” is. I correct him every time and say “you mean my wife?” He just nods.
One time after I corrected him he said “so she’s wife, does that make you husband?”
I looked at him like he was utterly stupid and said “no. We’re both girls. I’m her wife.”
I just uuuugh. Fucker.
The next time he asks about my “good friend” I intend to just go off on him and refuse to step foot in that 7/11 again.” (x)
just a few of the many
"literally no one"
there are STILL people who bend over backwards to deny that haruka and michiru are lesbians